Apartment Living Practice

[thedancingsousa]

How well do practice mutes work? Do they really dim the sound enough that my neighbors won't complain? Also, are there enough benefits of a Yamaha silent mute to make it worth the extra cost? How do I even tell which of these things will fit my f tuba? I'll be honest, I'm completely lost in the sauce here trying to look things up. Any help is appreciated. I am not in a place where I can change my living situation, so I'm trying to make the best of it.

[Sousaswag]

Yamaha Silent Brass is the best, and most expensive solution. Most practice mutes suck. Silent Brass is actually quite good at what it does.

Check your apartment noise making hours, let your neighbors above, below, and next door know you’d like to practice between X hour and X hour, and most people will be cool with it without a mute.

My other suggestion would be to find a place where you could go (church, school band room) when few people or no people are there. When I was in my college apartment, I went to a local school where I was doing clinical hours and knew the band director. Situation worked for me, but that’s just me.

Best of luck.

[JC2]

I’ve been through this situation as a student. This is all just my opinion FWIW.

Practice mutes in my opinion are only good for small bursts of practice. They’re very useful if you want to get 20 mins in here and there to warm up your face. However for any long term practice or extended hours they’re not good for you. The intonation, stuffiness are wildly different from normal playing. Not to mention it’s deeply unsatisfying to listen to the sound coming out of a practice mute.

Try your best to find a space where you can play properly. Good luck, I know how hard this can be.

[Bassboner]

Nothing new to add, just want to agree with what has already been said. For tenor and bass bone, the Yamaha Silent Brass is really the only thing to use. It fits in the bell in the case, is quiet enough not to annoy people, doesn't wreck intonation and you can use it with electronics to get the real Carnegie experience. Yes, it's expensive, but you'll actually use it and it actually works. I've never used the tuba one, but they are excellent mutes.

Also +1 for just getting a place to practice. There is no substitute for letting it all hang out. Get an arrangement with a school, a church, a work place...

[edfirth]

my solution was to get in my pick up truck, and go someplce with decent accoustics, put down the tailgale and have at it. I actually almost always did it on jobs. So if you have a pickup truck you're half way there. Best to YOU, ED

[bort2.0]

I had a Schlipf mute back in NYC. It worked well, but it was top heavy and I kind of just never liked using it

In NYC, there was something written in the city-wide ordinances for apartment leases, referring to musical instrument practice. It outlined the hours, and the language was something like "neighbors will not be made to suffer..." I always thought that was funny.

I practiced whenever I wanted and never got a complaint. Probably never after 8pm though, I guess I just had other things to do.

There was a professional trombone player on another floor, and his apartment was WAY closer to the building management office. He played all day long. No complaints from management. First, he was really good. And second... It was in the lease. And you can't fight city hall!

[bort2.0]

Also, at my condo here in Minnesota, nobody cared at all.

[russiantuba]

I have known people who have rented storage lockers to teach lessons in or practice. Some of the climate controlled ones are quite expensive near me, but it might be worth checking out.

During better climate months, I would practice outside at parks.

[Andy]

Communication with your neighbors is key. When I lived in a condo in Evanston, i discussed practicing with the upstairs and downstairs neighbors and made sure that anyone that might be affected had my mobile number. That way, if I was practicing at an inconvenient time, they could call me and let me know. Mainly because I'm a nice guy, no one ever called to ask me to stop.

[MikeS]

Here is a nice, albeit poorly formatted, article about living across the hall from Isaac Stern. Stern’s neighbor encouraged him to practice with his door open so the neighbor could hear. The obvious solution to your problem is to play like Isaac.

https://observer.com/2001/10/isaac-ster ... n-apt-19f/

[bort2.0]

I have known people who have rented storage lockers to teach lessons in or practice.

Yikes -- what student would want to go to that?

[arpthark]

I have known people who have rented storage lockers to teach lessons in or practice.

Yikes -- what student would want to go to that?

I passed a place called “Hollow Tree Self Storage and Wine Vault” the other day on the train to NYC. The good news is the owls leave at night, so you can host your lessons then. And then, after the kid leaves, bottoms up!

[russiantuba]

I mean this was a decade or more of this that I heard of it, but some people might feel safer doing them in a public area like this instead of someone's home, and I am not sure if they were kicked out of the unit for doing business there.

I have known people who rent space in a teaching studio to practice, as when they are paying for the space, it makes them be efficient and actually makes their practice be focused.

[bort2.0]

I mean this was a decade or more of this that I heard of it, but some people might feel safer doing them in a public area like this instead of someone's home, and I am not sure if they were kicked out of the unit for doing business there.

I have known people who rent space in a teaching studio to practice, as when they are paying for the space, it makes them be efficient and actually makes their practice be focused.

Well, that's true, someone's house could be even worse these days.

[solar_vale46]

On fit, the usual check is to measure the inside diameter of the bell and compare it with the range the mute maker lists, then buy from a shop that accepts returns, since F tuba bells vary a lot. Practice mutes cut volume but add resistance and pull some notes out of tune, so they suit short sessions better than long ones, as JC2 says. Low frequencies travel through floors and shared walls more than through air, so playing away from shared walls on a thick rug helps a little. Agreeing set practice hours with the neighbors, as Andy described, usually helps most.