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When I was trying to get my equipment near the stage yesterday (somewhat rugged terrain) - and even when I earlier loaned it to one of the vendors who I saw could use it who was carrying a very large box of candied popcorn up to their venue - I noticed that my dolly's
(which is one of those that's configured either to carry stuff at a tilt or flat)
wheels (sheet metal sides have become all warbled out from their metal axles)
I immediately thought about shopping for a new one - and saw the Guitar Center's "Stupid Deal Of The Day" was one of these for only $120 including shipping... But the thing is that I could tell that the wheels were made out of that crappy plastic that gets brittle after a few years and cracks into bits.

The one I have (which is old but not very rusty, and I believe it came out of my mother-in-law's storage building when she had to go to assisted living) is thicker and heavier metal and the through axle appears to be a half inch with regular washers and cotter pins.

On one of my trailers, the wheel on the trailer jack got destroyed because (my fault of course) I didn't notice that the load had taken the trailer down so low that the trailer jack wheel was running on the highway. Harbor Freight had an excellent wheel that fit perfectly (though it actually came on something else rather than being sold separately as with most of their wheels), and is actually a heavier duty wheel than the original. I've been really pleased with it. I'm thinking that even if I spend $38 (you know sales tax) on a pair of wheels for this older (but otherwise sturdy) two wheeler, that it will cost less than even a bargain priced "pretty good" new one, and it will be better than many new ones, particularly since the wheels will be the same excellent (is it okay to describe something "titanic" without everyone thinking of a sinking ship?) quality as the one that I purchased for my trailer jack (as it appears that maybe the same size and axle diameter will fit the two wheeler as fit the trailer jack).

I sold a highly-valued completely working (no issues) early 1970s Ampeg tube amp ("Portaflex", and the most desirable version) that had been hoping to sell without advertising it (which I did) which these days is really only appropriate (particularly one like this with original tubes - whereby someone wouldn't want to be bumping it around) for studio use to achieve an authentic vintage sound, my only other amp is a tiny but powerful 12-inch Polytone (which I used for a European tour back in the early '80s... ...something I could hand carry and something which was small enough to put in aluminum box for throwing underneath airplanes), but my replacement amp is a modern Ampeg with a 15-inch speaker which I can carry for "a ways", but not really a quarter mile from a parking area to a performance area. I just waited for this post and it weighs 48 lb with its power cord removed and the cord stuffed in my guitar case... so about 50 lbs.
I didn't weigh my bass guitars in their cases, but they're probably another 20 lbs. - as I would likely bungee them to the upward handle of the contraption for carting, and there would even be a little bit more additional weight due to the guitar stand and who knows what else that I'd be pulling along. I believe this amp is deserving and justifying of a two-wheeler to move it about (though the "event golf cart" thing is actually the most desirable, obviously :thumbsup: ).

Anyway, it had rained the day before the event (which made - fortunately only a few - areas muddy, and I had run this thing through our parking area - which was that weird gray dust mixed with gravel, which sort of cemented itself to the hard rubber on the wheels, so this is the perfect time to remove them, discard them, and replace them, and avoiding chipping off that concrete like substance from them).

Again, I think this is cheaper and will be sturdier than most of these things (at least at the price point level I'd be willing to consider.)

bloke "the classic anti-consumer cheapskate... and maybe because I've been on the selling side of merchandise for most of my life, though it said that salesman are some of the easiest people to talk into buying things"

... even if I stepped up the money a little bit and got this 8 inch (yet still narrow enough to fit on the existing welded axle) $21 ea. wheel, to better negotiate turf and gravel...

https://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-pn ... 42485.html

Of course those totally-collapsible light-gauge ones are always attractive (due to those portability and size features), but if I carry 75 lbs. on one of those things for more than a couple of times, I think they would be ready for the trash.

That said, Fat Bastard (Miraphone modell 98 - though the handmade sheet metal tuba itself is only about 24 lbs.)
in it's Jakob Winter hard case is right at 50 lbs., and there's no way in hell that I'm going to haul that thing around in a padded sack (whereby it's next owner will do as they please). 😐

...though - as previously seen in my posts and responses - my view of music stands is totally the opposite, whereby I'm only willing to haul around a KM101 (as all that thing is asked to do is to hold up a stack of papers or (if not fastened into a book) maybe even only two or three pieces of paper at a time).

this? No, I just don't think so...

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All I know is that a lot of guys in Kitsapalaccia shop Harbor Freight. They drive 1/2 ton trucks. Moving the side of beef from point to point is a goddamned adventure.
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BORING UPDATE

I looked around through my junk and found an old herbicide sprayer (the type with a 30 gallon tank and an electric pump, and pulls behind a riding mower... The white plastic tank was toast) which had some parts that I scavenged.

It had a 5/8 inch axle that was too long which can be cut and have new cotter pin holes drilled, and I found two mismatching pneumatic (tube) 12" tires, which are the same 5/8" axle diameter, which is just fine. They've been sitting outside, but they both hold air.

The original short pieces of metal tubing - which supported the original 1/2 axle - was loose by design, so I didn't have to drill out a whole lot of material from those two short pieces of tubing (welded on to the dolly) to accommodate a 5/8 inch axle, and ended up with a 1.25mm steel tubing wall thickness after they were drilled out, which is plenty adequate strength to support a combo amp and a bass guitar in its case.

Yes, the replacement axle and tires are 5/8 inch, whereas the original axle was 1/2 inch, and the tires were originally only 8 inch non-pneumatic or semi-pneumatic tires (the type that you find on cheap dollies, cheap tricycles, and such). so I got an upgrade to 12 inch pneumatic tires which will be gentler on the amplifier when it's pulled across rough terrain, such as gravel or bumpy turf.

I guess I'm headed up into town to the old hardware store (with a tin-patched wood floor and a wood stove used in the winter) to buy about 7 washers (5/8 inch holes) which will space the wheels out properly so they don't drag on the body of the dolly.

The last thing would be to drill a hole for a shorter spaced cotter pin on one end, and cut off the excess of the axle with a hacksaw.

I saw some brand new 10-in and 12-in pneumatic wheels at Harbor Freight's site (metal construction) for $10 to $12. The way those are designed would define an even shorter axle, so I'm not messing myself up by cutting this axle off - even when these wheels eventually fail to hold air and need to be replaced. (Replacing an entire metal wheel-with-tire is cheaper than buying a brand new tire and a brand new tube, and certainly less trouble to install.)

So far, I've spent $0.00 to repair and upgrade this dolly.
At this particular hardware store, a whole handful of spacer washers I need with a 5/8-in center will cost about a buck
(It's one of those dollies that converts from traditional upright to 90° (with the second pair of small swivel wheels), so that's cool too.

This isn't rated for appliances (though I believe I can move a washer, dryer or even refrigerator where I very careful using this thing), but it's steel, I like that better than aluminum, and I like a total cost of $1 vs. $140 (for something new/equivalent). I do have an appliance dolly with straps, but I'm not going to take that thing on a gig. :laugh:

This thing is painted orange and black, the orange parts look pretty good, part of the black is a little rusty on the surface, and I'm going to pull out one of my half cans of black paint.

SLIGHTLY LESS BORING PART OF THE POST:
- Don't throw anything away that has any chance of being repurposed.
- If you're old and you've always tried to do most of your own stuff, you're going to have things like 5/8 inch and 3/4 inch high speed drill bits, and won't have to go off and buy them.
- Look around through your piles of crap before going to Amazon, eBay, Harbor Freight, Musician's Friend, or Sweetwater...

...well, nless you work in a cubicle, or are a college professor or something. 😁

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While I admire your tenacity and commitment to re-use, and to Harbor Freight as a supplier of needed parts (I've done a lot of that myself, including recently in reconstructing the wheels/tires on a little pneumatic lift cart my wife uses), ...

In terms of instrument carts, I've had good success with a couple of different fold-up "transportation hand cart" products from Amazon or -- even better - a "beach dolly" or "beach fishing cart" (fold-up as well). These have really great "flat-free" non-pneumatic wide tires for navigating in sand or mud, fold up, and have relatively light weight aluminum frames. Here's one example: https://www.amazon.com/ONECHOI-Balloon- ... 9hdGY&th=1
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CONTINUES TO BE BORING

Mine looks remarkably like that except the end has a vertical piece of steel (which would be the toe plate in the vertical mode, and in the horizontal mode keeps stuff from sliding off the back.

Maybe I should put it together and take a picture.

Again, scrounging up stuff around here, it cost me $3 worth of spacer washers, considerably less than $103 plus shipping or an Amazon prime annual fee.

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I might hit the tow plate (vertical, in this configuration) with some new black paint, and I have some cans that are partially empty which would be enough.

I just picked it up with one hand. I'm thinking of what it would weigh if it was aluminum and I can't think of that it would weigh but a handful of pounds less. It only has to go from the car to the ground and from the ground back to the car... Otherwise it's just a rolling.

salient feature: It's free.

That said, were I to go to Harbor Freight and spent about 20 bucks for a pair of pneumatic 8-in tires or might get away (fit-wise) with a pair of 10 inch pneumatic tires, either of those would (I'd have to measure for 10 inch) clear the top of the the deck.
These old funky 12-inch tires (which are still holding air after these several days) do interfere with part of the deck, even though there's still enough room for my stage amp and my bass guitar case on what's left of it.

I'm trying to not spend too many $100's these days, at least not when I already have something here.
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bloke wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 6:06 pm That said, were I to go to Harbor Freight and spent about 20 bucks for a pair of pneumatic 8-in tires or might get away (fit-wise) with a pair of 10 inch pneumatic tires, either of those would (I'd have to measure for 10 inch) clear the top of the the deck.
I'm tired of pneumatic tires for utility use on small carts, etc. They lose air or just go flat after a while of doing nothing but sitting around. I'm tired of grabbing a cart or wheelbarrow or whatever, and then having to get one of the compressors out and blow air into the tires. The wheelbarrow now has a non-pneumatic tire and the new garden wagon we got for my wife has non-pneumatic tires. I'm done with pneumatic tires for them.

... Which reminds me that I need to put air in the log splitter tires even though it's gone nowhere in the past two years and it isn't planning to in the indefinite future. :eyes:
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Right in the barn is one of those huge compressors that's the size of a 500 lb man (Devilbiss), and all I have to do is turn the switch on, wait a minute or two and air up most anything I care to air up (pssst: or maybe spray some lacquer, or maybe run a sandblaster).

Hard tires are obviously more convenient, but they're rougher on musical instruments and delicate electronics over rough terrain.

If I'm sticking this thing in the car - and the tires feel too low, the barn is only 80 - 100 feet away.
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Back when I used to help out with a local college band, there was a cart with pneumatic tires used for transporting percussion equipment on. Every year, at least one or two tires on that cart would go flat and need to be air pumped. It was annoying.

Those big fat 'balloon wheel' solid PU (what does that stand for, btw?) tires seem preferable on dollies and carts 🔵
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I can completely understand inflatable tires at a university or a stadium or lots of places being annoying,
but - again - I have an industrial compressor a minute and a half away from where I park my car and load for gigs.
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I don't lack equipment to do it. My primary compressor is a Porter Cable 135 PSI, 4.15 HP, 15 Gal. Jetstream (I bought it new and have had it for a VERY long time). It has a long hose attached to it so I can either bring things to it or bring it to the things. Not exactly major shop strength, but a lot more than I've ever needed.

I don't mind using it a couple of times a year (maybe) on the car, truck, and tractor tires. But I do mind the silly little pneumatic tires on carts and such just losing air for no apparent reason.

Oh, and by the way ... the tires on the Porter Cable compressor are solid rubber. So those never lose air. :eyes: Kind of ironic.
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Mine doesn't have wheels, but without them it's actually more convenient than little ones that I used to own with wheels.
It's 230 volt and I believe it's 80 gallons and five horse.
It's this size but (not I.R.) it's a Devilbiss (USA).

Whenever any trailers or vehicles seem to have low tires, I pass the barn (anyway, as it's on the way off the property) when leaving, so I can pull right up to one of the large sliding doors, fire the compressor up pull the generous hose out the door, and do whatever needs to be done quickly and easily. Since I don't need to roll a dirty old compressor around, I can even do this in gig clothes.

There's a lot of talking in circles here.
The advantage to hard airless tires is not having to fill them up, and the advantage to pneumatic tires is that they are more gentle on delicate musical instruments and delicate electronics (which are what I'm going to be pulling around - often over gravel, cracked pavement, and bumpy turf).

Regardless of the type of tire, if one fails it's not the end of the world. Turning the breaker on to the compressor, sliding open a barn door, opening up the back hatch of the car, and airing up a tire or two on a dolly is something that I can tolerate. Actually - compared to a lot of the stuff I do, it's remarkably tolerable.

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bloke wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2026 10:23 am There's a lot of talking in circles here.
The advantage to hard airless tires is not having to fill them up, and the advantage to pneumatic tires is that they are more gentle on delicate musical instruments and delicate electronics (which are what I'm going to be pulling around - often over gravel, cracked pavement, and bumpy turf).
The talking in circles may be because someone amongst us isn't aware of the current "airless" tire technology. It's not what it used to be. They're not hard just because they're airless. They're not hard at all. They're soft airless tires -- just like pneumatic tires with the correct amount of air in them -- except they're not pneumatic. Stop by a Lowes some time and check out the wheelbarrows and carts with the airless tires. And ... drum roll ... you can actually buy such tires/wheels as replacements for your pneumatic tires. It's AMAZING!
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yes, but the other SERIOUS part of the equation (stated multiple times) is

"not wishing to spend $1XX.XX on something whereby I already had all the stuff (laying around, here) to put a completely functional one together via purchasing $3 of spacer washers.

$100 - $140 (or whatever) no longer goes very far, but that's all the more reason to try to not spend any unnecessary $1XX's.
Nearly everyone will agree that prices have skyrocketed on most everything whereby incomes have mostly remained stagnant.

me: buying something that I already have = clutter
also me: making a couple of pieces of "junk" into "stuff" = elimination of clutter
my Dad: b. 1916, and grew up in the so-called "Great Depression". I'm my Dad's son.
usefulness of an equipment dolly: probably - percentage-wise - 1 of 7-or-8 gigs (otherwise, pull up to the venue/stage door, unload, and go park.

you: this
me : that

:cheers: ...or are we (not even intending to do so) trolling each other...?? :laugh:
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Me: tired of false economies that I can spend my way out of in my waning years -- saving time for more fun things to do and better ways to enjoy them.

But I understand. You're still young.

Seriously, in the past year or two I've switched focus from "Do it myself" to "Pay for it if I can find somewhere or someone with good materials and skill enough not to screw it up." It's an oddly liberating change -- gives me a lot more time to play music and do other things, and removes me from temptations to do things like get up on a 30 ft. extension ladder to take down the swing superstructure I put up (for grandchildren) on a couple of trees over a decade ago (like when I was your age). My wife is much happier with this as well -- even though she has no life insurance on me and only an "accidental death" policy -- which I suppose might encourage me in a more cautious direction as well, if you know what I mean. :huh:
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If you're a bunch older than I am, you're not going to need ANY money much longer. 😐
It doesn't appear as though you've spent much money on tubas.
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bloke wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2026 7:13 pm If you're a bunch older than I am, you're not going to need ANY money much longer. 😐
Somewhat difficult to predict, but I've had to raise my EOL predictions recently, what with medical science improving at a shocking rate. But our financial goal is to die at exactly the point that our money supply goes to zero. That probably won't happen as a practical matter because I'm sure my wife will survive me and need remaining support. But the kids and grand-kids are on their own. :smilie8:
It doesn't appear as though you've spent much money on tubas.
No -- just 4 (not counting euphs as tuba-like objects) over about 35 years. But I'm just an amateur, and so have largely followed Oystein Baadsvik's view on such things (find one you like and stick with it) -- not needing to constantly play in a number of more demanding situations. Besides, I got started relatively late in life on tuba, but didn't feel a need to catch up in terms of pure purchasing volume.

I've lately been thinking of getting another one (small BBb), but don't have a realistic situation in which to play it around here. One of the bands I'm in now is a New Horizons band (primarily just to learn/practice technique on my little ancient tenor trombone), but I'm not sure how long that relationship will last (my previous experience about 15 years ago with NH lasted about 3 months, but this one seems a bit better).

I'd almost get another tuba just for the (very infrequent) occasion when I might be able to use it in the big band I'm in, but that just doesn't seem worth the effort -- and then I'd have to lug both the bass trombone and the tuba to practices. And lugging a tuba around now would be pretty painful -- the bass trombone and associated equipment is bad enough. So I probably won't be spending much more money on tubas. For various musculoskeletal reasons, it might be smarter to go back to flute, but it's not nearly so much fun.
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so as a grand grand finale to this vital discussion,
I might go ahead and invest the massive sum of $25 total, purchase a couple of these nice new pneumatic 8 inch wheels, pull off the old (yet they hold air) 12 in pneumatic-tire wheels that I scrounged from behind the barn (though they stick up above the deck of this two wheeler when in horizontal orientation) and be done with it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-no ... 47638.html.
(Hey, I'm a 4-1/2 star type of guy. :smilie8: )

If the day ever comes again that I feel like I can afford (even) fast food, maybe I'll spend $140 on a dolly that's nice and new and almost as good as this one, though I'm pretty sure I'll be dead by then. 🙂👍
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Okay.
I ended up buying a new pair of wheels, their tires are solid rubber and quite heavy, but the important thing is that from the middle of the axle hole to the most extreme tangent of the rubber is less than 4 inches, which defines that the tires don't rub on whatever is being toted on those two orange rails. (With tax, the two wheels were about $17.) The other really important thing is that they are very sturdy, and there are absolutely no plastic parts.

That's about all I've spent other than a bunch of drilling and hacksawing. I stepped up the axle size from 1/2 inch to 5/8 inch (has 5/8 is the common size, particularly for heavy-duty wheels), so that was some pretty interesting drilling on the main frame of the dolly itself, as those tubes through which the axle goes are each about an inch and a half long.

The amplifier is going to rest on those two orange tubes, and the bass guitar case is going to be upright held in place by those bungees which are pretty darn tight when stretched around the black tubes and a bass guitar case.
I guess you noticed the pipe insulation.

The only other thing is that I'm looking for now is a scrap of low pile carpet to fasten to the black thick sheet metal flange to sort of prevent it from scuffing the tolex on the amplifiers exterior.
I'll fasten that stuff in place with some flathead screws and some fender washers with small center holes.


..so with some paint that I had laying around here, $17 worth of wheels, and a $2 piece of pipe insulation, it's good to go for the next gig - whereby I will be required to park somewhere that's remote, whereby I'm not even allowed to drop off my stuff at the door. (That happens every once in awhile... Hopefully there's "that guy with a golf cart", though.)

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It's now time to go back to customizing and stepping up features of the (new 5-string) bass guitar itself. I've replaced a few things on it, but next will be tuners, and then maybe - if things are going well at Christmas - a $300 pair of dual coil passive pickups.

You may have read that I've been studying Bordogni on the bass guitar, but - more recently - I've also started playing bass guitar out of the Kopprasch book. I found. A source for a whole. bunch of note for note transcriptions of recorded bass guitar parts on a bunch of hits. I also have fun going through a bunch of Beatles tunes and picking out the bass parts (so-called) "by ear". Those Beatles bass lines are fun to play, but they're also quite accessible. Something else I've been doing is trying to play legato versions of melodies to a whole bunch of different types of standards including ballads and with vibrato of course. I'm also trying to find all the harmonics on the instrument, trying to commit them to memory, and striving to come up with some clever ways to use them. Again, I'm not the world's greatest tuba player ever, but I sort of have the tuba figured out. There really isn't anything that I'm asked to play on the tuba that's a challenge (no, I'm really not interested in mastering any more show off solo pieces for tuba, because there's no one that's going to pay me to play any of those - no matter how well I could manage to play them), but the bass guitar (at this point of building my technique) is a different story.
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Re: two-wheeler/dolly - thinking out loud (warning: boring)

Post by bloke »

Mrs bloke's car needed gas badly.
We went up into town and filled it up and stop at this little carpet and flooring store. The lady gave us a stack of discontinued samples of low pile carpeting... So I now have some to bolt to the flange to protect the amplifier from scratching.
I went around the corner to the ancient hardware store with wood flooring with tin patches and a wood stove. I bought a handful of Fender washers and short screws and nuts to fasten the carpet down to the flange.
I guess I now have about $22 invested in this restoration.
I really like the fact that it's >JUST< long enough to fit my amplifier and bass guitar case on it, as they hold each other tight. I also like the price, as this is something that came out of my mother-in-law's house after she passed away (thus previously $0.00 personal cash layout).
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