Weingrill and Nirshel
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
I don't actually know...
Looks like it's got a little palm plate to protect the thumb linkage from your hand, i think.
One way to find out, i suppose, if you're willing to travel to New Jersey.
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
Originally the 4/4 Nirschl. Then Nirschl loaned/sold the tooling to a Brazilian manufacturer, until it became clear they didn't know what they were doing. Now, copies are made by Besson (BE995) and ZO (Little Thunderbird), to varying degrees of success. The ZO I tried was 30 cents flat overall, with no way to shorten the MTS sufficiently.
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
Isn’t the B&S 795 (International/Chinese made) a copy of this style as well?UncleBeer wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 3:48 am Originally the 4/4 Nirschl. Then Nirschl loaned/sold the tooling to a Brazilian manufacturer, until it became clear they didn't know what they were doing. Now, copies are made by Besson (BE995) and ZO (Little Thunderbird), to varying degrees of success. The ZO I tried was 30 cents flat overall, with no way to shorten the MTS sufficiently.

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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
The 1st slide assembly is mounted about three degrees to the left. (READ: wonky asf.)
Not acceptable, IMHO.
Not acceptable, IMHO.
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
Yeah, I guess. Although B&S claims it as having been designed by Dan Perantoni.arpthark wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 5:10 am Isn’t the B&S 795 (International/Chinese made) a copy of this style as well?
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
Brazil would be one thing but Jersey? Na im alrighthumBell wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 12:10 amI don't actually know...
Looks like it's got a little palm plate to protect the thumb linkage from your hand, i think.
One way to find out, i suppose, if you're willing to travel to New Jersey.
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
Yes sir!arpthark wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 5:10 amIsn’t the B&S 795 (International/Chinese made) a copy of this style as well?UncleBeer wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 3:48 am Originally the 4/4 Nirschl. Then Nirschl loaned/sold the tooling to a Brazilian manufacturer, until it became clear they didn't know what they were doing. Now, copies are made by Besson (BE995) and ZO (Little Thunderbird), to varying degrees of success. The ZO I tried was 30 cents flat overall, with no way to shorten the MTS sufficiently.
Brazil, under HS Musical brand makes it in both BBb (TB1) and in CC (TB1C) too.
UncleBeer wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:04 am Yeah, I guess. Although B&S claims it as having been designed by Dan Perantoni.![]()
I wonder at which point in time Mr Parentoni had any input.
Although, I guess the B&S gr41 (PT606) was inspired by a York tuba that Sir Parentoni owned. But the gr41 is not the same horn as the B&S 795
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Re: Weingrill and Nirshel
This sort of thing (more often: a tuba is to long - thankfully - vs. too short) happens with $3000 - $30000 tubas.
Besides the polishing nuisance and the (if not polished) sulfuric stench of silver-plated instruments, this is YET ANOTHER reason why I strongly lean towards the acquisition of clear-lacquer-finish instruments:
I can make all sorts of needed alterations and touch up the finish (here, on site) of the areas of those instruments which required reconfiguration.
Brazilian tubas...
I asked this once (no answer), but - at least, for a while - wasn't Herr Walter having the valvesets for his 6/4 C model (perhaps other models?) made in Brazil?
Besides the polishing nuisance and the (if not polished) sulfuric stench of silver-plated instruments, this is YET ANOTHER reason why I strongly lean towards the acquisition of clear-lacquer-finish instruments:
I can make all sorts of needed alterations and touch up the finish (here, on site) of the areas of those instruments which required reconfiguration.
Brazilian tubas...
I asked this once (no answer), but - at least, for a while - wasn't Herr Walter having the valvesets for his 6/4 C model (perhaps other models?) made in Brazil?
