PT-8 8k

[Timtamtuba]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EdQCQ5KbS/
Don't think ive ever seen one of these for sale at least not in a hot minute.

[prodigal]

You beat me to it!

[Timtamtuba]

You beat me to it!

I did!
Yeah I actually saw your post earlier today and thought there was another one for sale, was like "No way dude!"

[Timtamtuba]

I'd love to get someone's opinion on how similar these are to a symphonie from someone who has played both

[prodigal]

As would I!

Do they measure up to a good, let alone a GREAT Symphonie?

[daktx2]

I played a PT8 at Midwest in the elephant room, and own a Symphonie. I don't have a perfect basis for comparison but I will throw some thoughts out there all the same. To be really precise I'd definitely want them side get side.

I truly enjoyed playing both horns. Effortless response up and down the range, and every note centers very close to in tune. I think there might be a small lead pipe difference, as the Symphonie has wider slots/is easier to bend the pitch on. This can take some getting used to, and might make the symohonie a bit less approachable for a modern player. The Symphonie is also lighter, and vibrates more in your hands due to that build difference. I'm not sure if there's a difference at extreme volume from those construction differences, but it's plausible that there could be.

On sound, I don't think there's a whole lot of difference at a distance. The PT8, which I played in giant noisy room, didn't seem to sparkle as much as the Symphonie does up close, but I really don't know if that's noticeable for the listener. This was not an apples to apples comparison in terms of playing environment, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Timtamtuba]

I played a PT8 at Midwest in the elephant room, and own a Symphonie. I don't have a perfect basis for comparison but I will throw some thoughts out there all the same. To be really precise I'd definitely want them side get side.

I truly enjoyed playing both horns. Effortless response up and down the range, and every note centers very close to in tune. I think there might be a small lead pipe difference, as the Symphonie has wider slots/is easier to bend the pitch on. This can take some getting used to, and might make the symohonie a bit less approachable for a modern player. The Symphonie is also lighter, and vibrates more in your hands due to that build difference. I'm not sure if there's a difference at extreme volume from those construction differences, but it's plausible that there could be.

On sound, I don't think there's a whole lot of difference at a distance. The PT8, which I played in giant noisy room, didn't seem to sparkle as much as the Symphonie does up close, but I really don't know if that's noticeable for the listener. This was not an apples to apples comparison in terms of playing environment, so take it with a grain of salt.

Thanks for this, its great to get an idea at least. Acoustically speaking the elephant room is never ideal, but Its good that the "feel" was similar. The perantucci models always in my experience seem to have less color in the sound and more consistentcy overall sorta like you mentioned, compared to the older horns that have more character of sound but are not point and shoot like a modern F tuba. Im thinking my old Alex F from the 50s vs the Firebird I had in the 2010s. The Firebird was so easy to play it almost felt boring but didnt have nearly the captivating sound my Alex did.

[prodigal]

The Symphonie that I played in college was a spectacular instrument, that sparkled like a well cut diamond.

My PT-15 has a bit of sparkle, maybe like the glitter on a bass boat?

[prodigal]

I'm thinking about messaging the seller to basically ask: "What more are you looking for in an F tuba?!"

Well,. maybe he bought a GDR Symphonie.

Gotta mow the grass later, but it's completely wet outside. I think I'll go toot on the PT-15 a little.