Last week I took a leap and brought the little Eb tuba to a rehearsal last week. The other player was on a PT6. It was a blast. But...
Eb, E, F, Gb, G are all nearly a half step flat. When the horn got really warmed up they were much better. Ab, A, Bb, B, C were spot on. I mean really good.
I believe that the main tuning slide (on the lead pipe) is the issue. The legs were outside slides from a trashed yamaha euph. The inside slides are still stuck inside. The elbow is off a trashed king top action tuba. So, that makes the sound waves traveling through the lead pipe restrict down a little bit, then expand a little bit, then restrict again, the expand again. I think this is the issue...
Your thoughts..
Reflection on a home repair.
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Reflection on a home repair.
Meinl Weston 2145 CC
King Symphonic BBb circa 1936ish
Pre H.N.White, Cleveland Eb 1924ish (project)
Conn Sousaphone, fiberglass 1960s? (Project)
Olds Baritone 1960s?
Hoping to find a dirt cheap Flugabone

King Symphonic BBb circa 1936ish
Pre H.N.White, Cleveland Eb 1924ish (project)
Conn Sousaphone, fiberglass 1960s? (Project)
Olds Baritone 1960s?
Hoping to find a dirt cheap Flugabone
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Re: Reflection on a home repair.
Totally my experience and YMMV, but I've found that big intonation discrepancies like that tend to occur because of the taper of the larger part of the bugle and not really in the leadpipe/smaller tubing. But it could definitely be a contributing factor.
Re: Reflection on a home repair.
I’ve been fussy over intonation for a long while as I’ve gotten different tubas into my possession. Some thoughts:
Warming the horn up to “operating temperature” is essential. As you said, things improved. Especially on my really big tubas, warming them up fixes a lot of things.
Whenever I play a tuba in a different key, I have to remind myself that I’m not playing a C tuba, which is what I usually play. Sometimes I find that I’m treating the little tuba as a big one, and it throws pitch out one way or another because I’m still in “6/4” mode.
What I’ve been doing is playing stuff with drones A LOT. It does wonders for your ear.
I’ve also been less fussy when playing at home by myself. Getting the tuba into a better space with other people - it’s amazing how you adjust when you have a band to reference.
Warming the horn up to “operating temperature” is essential. As you said, things improved. Especially on my really big tubas, warming them up fixes a lot of things.
Whenever I play a tuba in a different key, I have to remind myself that I’m not playing a C tuba, which is what I usually play. Sometimes I find that I’m treating the little tuba as a big one, and it throws pitch out one way or another because I’m still in “6/4” mode.
What I’ve been doing is playing stuff with drones A LOT. It does wonders for your ear.
I’ve also been less fussy when playing at home by myself. Getting the tuba into a better space with other people - it’s amazing how you adjust when you have a band to reference.
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