How is Piggy playing different from 186 playing? Same length bugle but the rest is different.


I played a Piggy for most of my undergraduate time. I wouldn't call it an air hog, but, I would say it had a high ceiling for how much air you COULD push through it whereas the 186's I've played don't ...

"every Getzen valve section is built from the same quality materials, using the same skilled techniques, and tested to the same high standards."

My CB-50 has entered the chat and would like a word.

There's a reason I put MAW pistons in mine. And at the suggestion of the person who did my valve ...

I was able to play this horn once when Mike Bunn owned it. I lacked real experience with a 6/4 instrument back then but I thought it was amazing. I wish I had $30,000.

I loved my Pro 2000. It's a 5/4 with a 6/4 punch, in my book. My only problem with owning was is that I was only able to own one horn, and this was too hard to drive in a brass quintet or similar setting. Definitely NOT a do-it-all horn.

Cameron Gates won his USMB audition on a Pro 2000.

Knock a ...

People freak out about the location of the 5th valve (same as Yamaha) but (hey...) I wonder if they ALSO pay attention to the playing characteristics.

It woulda been great if they hadn't put this big ol', totally unnecessary "step" into the 5th throughout the entire production run. :eyes ...

SN 30082 puts it about half way through the production run of these, so it SHOULD be a pretty good horn. If not, it's the bones of a VERY good horn after all the established mods and changes. Had I not acquired one a few years ago this would be getting an offer from me.

Sousaswag wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 6:31 pm $8200 is steep for it, IMO. Yes, I understand it's music store pricing and all that, and that they can charge whatever they or the owner wants to charge. (I say that mostly because I get a lot of jabs when I comment on pricing )

"Optimistic Pricing"

Don't all of those series feature huge throats, which would mean that you were putting as much air in there as those huge throats require - thus the air column was vibrating more than normal and causing that loose whatever to vibrate.


That is a DAMN good point. It never happened on any other ...

Many, many years ago I was at Baltimore Brass trying out Dave's personal 2145 with his mods. I normally carry a few mouthpieces with me and one of them was my Deck 3, which was the second or third mouthpiece I tried in it. As soon as I started playing, the horn started rattling and Dave exclaimed ...

I have been told by Tom Holtz that a GOOD example of one of these is the best Eb he’s ever played. Willie Clark has one that is a good example and he says it’s amazing.

People should understand this is a Unicorn - that plating was most likely done by Anderson after being imported and I'll bet they never did more than a couple dozen. That horn is 40-50 years old and appears to be in excellent condition from the photos. Had I the cash, I'd be on my way to South Bend ...

Looking for a CLEAN copy of the band part for tuba. Anyone have one in PDF format that they could send me? All the copies in our band library are dog*hit.

Please PM or email my username at AOL if you have one to share. Thanks!



Rob

Same problem I had with my MAWs for my Getzen - the casings were slightly out of round. We plated the MAWs, then lapped them in. If it had been worse then the play was to make the casing round by boring them out and plate the valves to build up the thickness but that wasn't necessary.

Martin is the ...

Sousaswag wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 6:25 pm Interesting they cloned the HB2P... That could be cool!

I love the fact they named it "Skylark" - I think naming tubas after old cars could be cool. Now excuse me while I go practice on 6/4 Volare'

bort2.0 wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2026 7:40 pm Is Steve Dumaine retiring? He's not all that old, right?

I don't think it's a secret that Steve has been dealing with focal dystonia for quite some time now, I mean if I know it then it can't really be a secret. Amazing player, never met him but been told he's a GREAT guy.

I look at my knife block and see several knives, all unique, all with a purpose they excel at. Yes, they all cut, but, some are better for some jobs than others. I try to avoid having knives that excel at the exact same thing as each other and have similar properties.

I have several bowling balls ...

I don't know what kind of upgrades they may have done, but as I understand it repairs were completed to the point of making the place operational.

I know WHY they host it in Brucker Hall when they can (money), but, Minor is too small and Loboda has rehearsals going on so it can't be used for many ...

Three Valves wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 1:12 pm What venue is Minor and Loboda?

Brucker Hall

I purchased a set for my Getzen, and ended up having them nickel-plated before final fitting. They do not stick. Turns out, my Getzen has had an interesting life and the valve casings are not *exactly* circular, so the extra plating ended up being a very good thing prior to final fitting. I could ...

I think you replaced your original posting with all the details with your bump message... you should probably re-post the original stuff (location, pictures, etc)