With regards to hard fingerings… going from 24 to 23 and back…. I found a very workable solution. A full pull 3rd slide gives an E with 123 in both octaves in tune. Having this 123 option makes it a lot easier!!

https://link.marktplaats.nl/m2451115720 ... nt=app_ios

Try to find the main tuning slide :) funky!

Correct, L is for 10.5 bell instead of standard 9.5 inch bell.

Hi, yes thanks!! I found a slightly larger shank than American (.520 at end of shank is AM) works better on the 983. The PS3 shank is supposedly that way…

Good to know there are other options!! And there is a dealer in Portugal I believe for the European market?

Sure about contra? Sounds like basstrombone…

Yes, all input is really appreciated! For now I am settling with my Doug Elliott with a Miraphone shank (between AM and Euro). The Wick is just to muddy for me… it is a very forgiving mouthpiece, but it will cost you in clarity. And I find clarity is my priority above all.

Hi, my experience with the Wick 3L was not that positive. It probably works on the top action models, to me not on the front action. I found it sluggish in response and tubby sounding.

Bob Kolada wrote: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:20 pm 6:38 here is fantastic. I've been on a giant German Bb binge lately and have been watching a lot of videos where I don't understand what the guy is saying.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ht1C1fnMWJQ

I believe most of his video's have an English audio channel available!

I finally had some time to finish the project as best and practical as possible. The result is absolutely not very esthetically pleasing, but is good enough for now. It will be using this case maybe once or twice a year.

I had some semi hard foam and some pieces of soft foam build into a block. I ...

Looking for the 983 designed models.

You are perfectly right of course. These kind of responses would fit well in a Dutch forum! ;)

Eric, this is a great read: viewtopic.php?t=805&hilit=601

Very nice, I have always liked the frosted silver look!

Not really, I believe they are 2 completely different things. The common thing is that they narrow the bore and have an effect on response..... Sleeving is not a new thing and has been around for a long time I believe.

I love my 983 but…. I felt I could be a bit easier to start soft notes, to do flexibilities easier and a little bit more to lean on in general. I got this from my experience with Thein. When I visited their shop we did some optimizations to my Thein bass trombone. This included sleeving the mts ...

Yes I did indeed, and that worked a bit.

Yes, thanks.

Hinge missed a center pin, and here’s the loose latch…

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2 out of 4 latches latch shut very loosely…. Is there a way to fix that? Or do those need to be replaced??

Reviving this thread to show what I did for my Besson 983.

I was looking for a hard case, but the exact case for this model is rare and very expensive new. This week I found a passable case: an old Miraphone case. (For a B-flat I guess)

First thing I did is make the mold at the side of the bell ...

Surprised nobody mentioned the tuba tamer just yet