First new horn I bought in 1983 was a BBflat 184, sn 12453 (funny how I still remember that.) Great horn and for me was the ultimate quintet horn ...I wonder what life would be like today if I hadn't gone off on Tubenet-fueled equipment infatuation nonsense, and eventually "switched to CC" in 1998 ...

Was it for sale on here?

greenbean had mentioned this one being for sale:

“Yes, it is a terrific horn. I also own a 184 BBb also. Cosmetically roughly but also a great horn. In fact, I am playing them side-by-side. It is hard to say which plays *better* but the 185 definitely puts out a bigger ...

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Mary Ann wrote: Thu May 07, 2026 10:43 pm As a still playing horn player,.

I’m sorry @Mary Ann!

My early onset senility strikes again!

bort2.0 wrote: Thu May 07, 2026 11:11 pm

York-aholic wrote: Thu May 07, 2026 9:41 pm I’d like the bag please.

Long ago, I had a leather Cronkhite bag for my WIllson 3050RZ. Pretty awesome bag, but it was SO heavy. The tuba plus bag together... ouch!

Yep, I have an old RB leather bag for my 6/4 York 736. Certainly not light but me like!

Oh my! I have been struggling to turn a knuckle on a valve casing for a fifth on my BBb 186. Smooshing the first valve tubing over is a great idea. Then I can use a stock casing. Why didn't I think of this!

So on that new first valve tubing, what you lose in the length of the crook, you gain back ...

I’d like the bag please.

@hbcrandy Perhaps you might have some insight to share?

I am going to use the two short-length 90 degree bend legs from the original first valve circuit and the donor fifth valve circuit to route the fifth valve circuit. For the slide, I will use the longest inner/outer tubes from the donor set (from the 4th valve circuit) and the crook will be a donor ...

Top action valve block strikes again. :-)

M-W euphoniums are pretty rare, but they're huge.
People think they play badly out of tune, because the outside slides are short, and all the slides need to be pulled a good bit vs. the typical euphonium - whereby typically most of the slides are in nearly all the way with most makes. I own one ...

Is there anyone going through Tucson, AZ on their way to southern Californina that might have space to bring a (tuba) mute with them in exchange for some gas money in the next month or two or three?

It doesn’t take up a huge amount of space, is a good listener, doesn’t need to stop for restroom ...

Didn't the Holton 345 all have 20" bells? The 6/4 Yorks (other than the 2 CSO Yorks) came with 22" bells...

I've figured out how to configure the fifth rotor on top of the 4v block by using a donor L-shaped piece of tubing from the donor 1st valve and a donor 2nd valve slide. It will end up looking kind of like how five valve Alexanders look:

https://i.imgur.com/AHKRGnO.png

except the 5th rotor will ...

dp wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 9:47 am Can't route the 4th circuit outside where the third is now?

Sure can…

Does anyone in southern California have a Miraphone 184 in BBb that would consider letting me play it for maybe 10 minutes in exchange for me buying breakfast or lunch?

I have never played one but am intrigued and may be interested in buying or trading for one (1958 DC USN 4v Martin Mammoth?)

Yeah, I’d say $2,799 was a pretty good price…

I don’t know if it’s still there, but there was a great pizza place in Caledonia (at least back 23 years or so) :cheers:. Excellent thin crust (or what some call tavern style) pizza. They made their own sausage. Back in my Mergers & Acquisitions days I spent a couple months just around the corner ...

Anyone driving from there to So Cal anytime soonish?

My thought would be to look for a bell first, see what you think of it. If not thrilled, then use the valves elsewhere.

From that Dillon's picture, I believe they said the bell was from a Jupiter. I'll PM you another idea/source.