Tariffs - what's the skinny on Chinese built tubas?

[barry grrr-ero]

I'm already hearing Tariff horror stories, but none involving tubas. Wessex ships from England. Will U.S. Customs go through a Wessex or Eastman shipment, to see where the horn originated? Will this be a death-knell of Chinese tuba sales in the U.S.?

[Big Francis]

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[bloke]

I'm glad to take the bait.

All countries - including China - are going to make deals and will agree to drop-or-lower their longstanding tariffs (and outright import bans) against the United States, in exchange for the United States (finally, after decades) establishing retaliatory tariffs and - subsequently, after negotiation - agreeing to drop them.

I believe I read that China and American officials are already involved in negotiations in Switzerland. Obviously, negotiating with China is going to be the toughest, because they export so much to the United States, and the Chinese economy is in such bad shape, particularly as so much of the Chinese economy is a synthetic/false economy, whereby so many people there are given busy work to do (such as building complete totally unoccupied cities, untraveled roads, and other things) simply to keep them occupied, with an income, and to discourage them from rioting in the streets (very similar to FDR's various three-letter programs during the depression).

I would personally encourage everyone to turn off the (panic-promoting) so-called "news", and that refers equally to left-wing "news" and right-wing "news". The goal of "news" is for the serf class to continuously be an emotion-motivated rather than a reason-motivated herd of livestock, in order to strengthen/promote feudalism (lords controlling serfs).

Back to the main question, everyone here knows that I sell some of that stuff, and I'm shrugging my shoulders... Admittedly, I do all sorts of different things which I cobble together into a so-called "income", and - for my entire life - have eschewed having a "job" whereby nearby all of my income not only would have come from one source, but also would have depended on someone (other than myself, ie. a non-"ally") to provide it.

... I do believe that deciding to finally fight back against the economic war (that has been waged against the United States so long) - rather than continuing to pretend that it doesn't exist - is really instructive, because finally Americans have been shown that there really are no such things as so "allies", whereas other countries are only "friends" of the United States when the United States gives and does a bunch of stuff to/for such countries and buys bunch of their stuff - without them allowing their people to buy American products.

... When all of us were little kids, we learned about other little kids who really weren't our friends ("allies") unless we did things for them and gave them things, but - for some reason - it didn't transfer to the international level in our minds as we grew into adulthood, particularly (again) and so many of us allow are brains to soak up "news" - as if our brains are nothing more than sponges, and seemingly incapable of analytical thought.

...a whole bunch of rhetoric to express this simple message:

Chill. It isn't going to last, but - even if it does - I have no personal desire to acquire any of the specific products you listed...but also - personally speaking - I really don't buy all that much brand new stuff, period...and this even includes products when consumables all the way down to and including shirts, trousers, suits, and shoes.

[bisontuba]

A top notch repairman in NYC just took a big hit on an instrument from Europe....due to tariffs...

[bloke]

I just bought a significant shipment of tuba parts from central Europe (several thousand dollars worth), was quoted on those parts before tariffs were even discussed, and paid the exact amount (a week ago) I was quoted (pre-tariff era).

I'm sure our various stories can end up being just as anecdotal as is (again) the "news".

[tofu]

I'm already hearing Tariff horror stories, but none involving tubas. Wessex ships from England. Will U.S. Customs go through a Wessex or Eastman shipment, to see where the horn originated? Will this be a death-knell of Chinese tuba sales in the U.S.?

Tariff applies to country of origin and not country of export. Do you seriously think this back door to go around tariffs would not have been thought of before? There are various ways of determining this and serious trouble for someone like Wessex if they were to attempt some type of subterfuge to slip them in.

[bloke]

I watched a video of the FED chairman who is obviously very distressed that overall inflation is down over the last two months (in spite of tariffs).

I think music stores need Chinese instruments, but I'm not sure who else does.