All modern trumpets and cornets have the springs at the top.
Some vintage models may have them at the bottom.
All modern flugelhorn (I think) have them at the bottom.


Modern Flugelhorns can have either bottom (Yamaha and others using the Couesnon design) or top (Bach, Benge, Conn, Courtois ...

I know Edwards and Shires (not sure about Rath) make/made open neck pipes for their (modular) bass trombones (Edwards also offers a single valve converter for their axial valve sections), and I wouldn't be surprised if many of the small German makes would build one if you asked. What kind of ...

I know Edwards and Shires (not sure about Rath) make/made open neck pipes for their (modular) bass trombones (Edwards also offers a single valve converter for their axial valve sections), and I wouldn't be surprised if many of the small German makes would build one if you asked. What kind of sound ...

I'd put the quality of these (I own one, the second longest which fits up to B & S 103, Miraphone 186, MW 25, Yamaha 641 [ugh] and Alex 163) as on par with the Protec platinum series; it's better made than the gold series.

Seeing that the tenor tuba is at least taller (isn't it also a bit wider ...

It looks skinny compared to the bigger King Cleveland (basically a 1250 but with a 24" bell) I once handled, and the main tuning slide in comparison with the 1st slide better matches the junior model as I remember seeing on the H.N. White site (it's not there anymore...).

Not providing measurements ...

Old mellophones are so cool...

Looking at it closely, I feel that the extensions are for putting the instrument in, along with the other set of slides, Eb. That could, with a pull on the extension valve, put the instrument down to C.

As OP has it installed, it also looks like the 3rd valve can be ...

If they tweaked their current bag by adding more room to the flare area (up to 20" bell), it could accommodate all the King style and 4/4 York style tubas. This size would also fit the compensating Eb basses and Piggy with enough padding, I think.

In addition to the 186 sized bag in the plan ...

(a tuba is not a horn; it is a tuba. A horn is a horn.)


It's even worse when people call Woodwinds Horns . Even worse than that is when people think Saxophones are Brass instruments.


...so are saxophones - then - "brassreeds" ?


:laugh:


What are the new names for English horns and ...

If you are looking for a Wessex Eflat tuba that has a”classic F tuba sound,” you might want to check out the Bombino. The two I have played both had very accessible low ends and really sang up high. I do tend to be biased toward Eflats with 15” bells.


+1, though I liken it to a "bass euphonium ...

Looks like an Eb to me too, and a "monster" at that.

Looks decent, but maybe for a reason...?

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I don't see a bell side ferrule, and the bell looks suspiciously similar to the Buescher in the other posting. Just a guess though.

A flat half-step 5th valve might be nice for those b-naturals. When I had my Holton I recall needing a long pull on 4 for that note played 4-2.

Don


This (and also for the low E) is the way...

...IF you can make it fit. (What is it about the geometry of this design that makes adding a 5th ...

For a CC tuba, perhaps the reasoning was how often low Db above pedal C is written; it's the one note that's missing (without pulling a bunch of slides) on a flat half step 5 valve C tuba. The Db and low Gb above are in tune, and low F would be 245 with some pull.

I believe I once read that Cerveny ...

I'd give a B&S GR51 (or the Eastman copy) a shot. I tried one and the low register just roared out of it. Don't be deceived by the smaller-than-the big-Hagen (19-20 mm iirc for the B&S) bore size.

Speaking of Hagen models...

The 496 (5/4) could be right up your alley if you otherwise like the way ...

Don't overthink it, just take the dang day off!


Sometimes, it's as simple as this. If my chops feel worked out after playing a bunch (and it happened recently) I don't touch any of my horns (bass trombone is my "1B" vs tuba being "1A") for as long as I can until the next rehearsal/performance ...

TubātōTubŏtō wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:39 pm What are the dimensions like on these?

According to the H.N. White site, 14" bell, 30" long and slim; the Wessex Bombino is bigger fwiw. This might be considered a 1/2 size Eb if the Bombino and the King medium it somewhat resembles are 3/4 size.

The "Champion" branded tuba at BBC is a tiny, ~100 year old European 3v instrument.

https://baltimorebrasscompany.com/p-15066-champion-3v-eb-tuba.aspx

Last time I was there, I did not give that one a toot, but the caveat on the website of "This instrument is an antique and was not serviced in ...

If you can find one, maybe a Schilke 44E4 would be worth trying. 24.28mm inside, very deep cup.

But my suggestion is different: get a lesson with Doug Elliott if you haven't already. It might not necessarily be due to the size of the pieces, but also how you play them, that you get fatigued so ...

Per the descriptions (not the chart) Laskey provides for both lines, the K cup is a bowl shaped cup that's deeper than the shallow C cup, giving F and Eb tubas more presence, but not as deep as the G cup (for CC and BBb). Its rim is a different shape from the other lines, but they don't say how ...

It does for me, and especially when I play the parts as written on euphonium. Maybe hearing the different tonality and where that sound is coming from in relation to my ears is the trigger for me.

But there are some parts that my brain just can't compute with the bass tuba (mostly Sousa marches for ...